My sister was arrested for shoplifting

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Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Badedas » Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:41 pm

I think the store can push for prosecution but ultimately up to the gardai but the shop wouldn't have stopped her without proof & being 100 percent that she had unpaid for goods. It will all have been recorded on cctv.

If the gardai said she will receive an adult caution them that is almost definitely what she will get. The shop will have discussed it wuth the gardai.

A friends dc received a juvenile caution for shoplifting from a high st shop. They were told they were lucky it was a caution as the store is known to push for prosecution.
It took ages for the all the files to be sorted & they had to go to the local station to receive the caution & sign for it with a parent present

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by apache » Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:20 pm

Gardai decide but can be guided by the store. They won’t prosecute something if a complaint isn’t made or if they don’t think a prosecution is possible/necessary.

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Starryeyedsurprise » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:31 pm

slightly off topic but who decides on the caution/prosecution, etc.??? The store or the Gardai?? For example, if I deliberately shoplifted from let's say Dunnes - do Dunnes decide to prosecute or Gardai???

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Starryeyedsurprise » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:28 pm

I would imagine if she was going to be prosecuted/going to Court, the Gardai would have to very clear about that. Did they suggest she engage with a Solicitor. Even if it did go to Court, any Judge would be extremely sympathetic to her situation. She is a recovering alcoholic back on her feet and contributing to society. What is important now, is her health and well being

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Advice » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:25 pm

Hi Elsie. No, never, ever been in trouble before. She won't even drive her car if tax disc one day out of date !!! I did call the Gardai, they sympathetic but won't speak with me (understandable).

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Elsie » Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:06 pm

you do mention she has turned her life around. Had she been in trouble with the gardai before? if so they may need to have a serious chat with her and get her to sign off this caution.

She will be fine as long as she doesnt do anything like that again.

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Rita » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:51 am

I am sorry this happened, I can see how easily it can.
I think it’s just procedure as he has to explain it and then she has to sign she understands. If they were going to prosecute I think they possibly would follow a different procedure as they send a file to the door.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/j ... ng-scheme/

I know they can’t give you info but I wonder if you rang or called into the station could they reassure you? As you are worried for her mental health a.

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Charli » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:36 am

I’ve been through something similar with a friend . She also got an adult caution on the day , though she wasn’t arrested . She received the letter from the inspector, she attended a meeting with him where he explained about the adult caution and issued it and recorded it , I think it will be the same for your friend .

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Advice » Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:26 pm

Thanks Tobo. Oh I’ll definitely go in with her and she’s going to a meeting after work tomorrow. The letter from inspector has thrown her because she’s now thinking that that the store are insisting on prosecuting her

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Tobo » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:51 pm

Not sure of the legalities of it all, but I'd certainly be getting your sister to check in with you a few times a day, just so she's stable in her head. I'd be concerned the stress may trigger her. Maybe a good idea also would be to get her to talk to her sponsor if she's in AA.
I'm sure it's just a tick the box exercise in 2 weeks time, but I'd advise someone go with her, if only to sit outside in the car/wait at bus stop, go for coffee afterwards.
So easily it could happen, your poor sister.

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Advice » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:21 pm

Many thanks all. Suills, she signed an acceptance of an adult caution and is confused now by the letter from the inspector

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Suills » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:12 pm

Adult caution is given by an inspector, once she admits the offence, the inspector will give her a talking to….it will be recorded in such a way it won’t be a conviction…..but if she is arrested again for a similar offence it will be recorded that she benefited from a caution and therefore will be prosecuted next time.

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Suills » Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:11 pm

Adult caution is given by an inspector, once she admits the offence, the inspector will give her a talking to….it will be recorded in such a way it won’t be a conviction…..but if she is arrested again for a similar offence it will be recorded that she benefited from a caution and therefore will be prosecuted next time.

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Bubbles » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:49 pm

Such an easy thing to happen if you are distracted, it’s happened me before. Could she call to the station and ask the Sargent what that entails, if only to put her mind at ease. It might be nothing and just procedure.

Re: My sister was arrested for shoplifting

by Starryeyedsurprise » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:30 pm

I think but not 100% sure that the Inspector must "sign off" on the issue if you get m? Therefore, he/she will meet with your sister and give her a lecture about shoplifting. However, a legal person may be better to advise.

January - that seems so very harsh ffs. Must have been very traumatic for your Aunt

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