Only One Not Promoted

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Re: Only One Not Promoted

by Sparkly Pooh Bear » Tue Dec 06, 2022 3:30 pm

I don't have any advice to offer about promotions etc. as I don't work in a corporate environment but it sounds absolutely awful environment and I'd be getting out fast.

I recently left an administrative job in a small company as I felt undervalued and was doing everything- I had nothing lined up but I knew I deserved better, withing 3 weeks I started another job with better terms and conditions and nicer work environment. Honestly life is too short to feel absolutely miserable, you have to value yourself before anyone else will.

Also I wouldn't be jumping at the first job (longer hours, lower pay), again this goes back to you knowing your value.

Oh and my mantra is growth happens in discomfort. It's going to be scary but you need to change jobs


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Re: Only One Not Promoted

by Capricorn » Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:48 pm

I would absolutely decline meetings outside of PT hours. They’ll continue scheduling you to work until you change how you respond. Seriously fuck that.

I don’t always check others calendars. It’s up to the invitee to decline. They sound like a right shower.

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by luxie » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:01 pm

Any meeting I organise with someone I must meet it’s a phone call to arrange anyway.

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by luxie » Tue Dec 06, 2022 1:01 pm

RDR wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:53 am
luxie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:50 am I don’t mean to sound harsh but anyone scheduling a meeting here doesn’t look at anyone’s calendar- it’s up to those invited to say if it does or doesn’t suit.
A lot of companies with heaving meeting loads particularly working across locations and timezones will use scheduling tools that do show others availability. Without them you could schedule a meeting and find literally no-one else could attend. You at least then know who may not attend the meeting you are organising iykwim. Not saying that's the case for the OP but there are a lot of variations possible on these kind of norms.
:)

That’s not how it works here, for many reasons that I won’t get into here due to commercial sensitivity

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by StarryNight » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:53 pm

I've regularly muted a meeting so I can get on with my actual work.....

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by Cinquecento » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:44 pm

Rita wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:42 pm Sorry off topic but is Willy waving what I think it means ..never heard that term before!
Yes. Men love meetings and call them at every opportunity. Nothing like shiteing on for a few hours!

Obviously a generalisation but one not far off the mark in my experience…

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by Rita » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:42 pm

Sorry off topic but is Willy waving what I think it means ..never heard that term before!

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by Cinquecento » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:39 pm

luxie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:50 am I don’t mean to sound harsh but anyone scheduling a meeting here doesn’t look at anyone’s calendar- it’s up to those invited to say if it does or doesn’t suit.

So just don’t attend and say it’s outside your hours so are unavailable- email this if it’s easier.

But you need to decide your battle lines - sit and let things continue as are or make little changes to make your life easier
This. I work part time and don’t attend meetings on my days off. Most meetings are Willy waving opportunities in my experience anyway so if it’s something I need to know it will be communicated to me by colleagues. I do attend training courses/seminars etc outside of my hours but I would be given time off in lieu. Decent employers don’t take the piss.

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by RDR » Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:53 am

luxie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:50 am I don’t mean to sound harsh but anyone scheduling a meeting here doesn’t look at anyone’s calendar- it’s up to those invited to say if it does or doesn’t suit.
A lot of companies with heaving meeting loads particularly working across locations and timezones will use scheduling tools that do show others availability. Without them you could schedule a meeting and find literally no-one else could attend. You at least then know who may not attend the meeting you are organising iykwim. Not saying that's the case for the OP but there are a lot of variations possible on these kind of norms.

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by Upset » Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:27 am

Thank you all, I think my confidence has taken a bit of a hit and I am doubting myself and my capabilities.

I cannot stay where I am not valued and where I am not happy, and I'm not happy, I'm miserable.
Life is too short to feel like this.
The culture in the organisation won't change, so I need to change.

2023 will be a new me, new job and happy.

I am so grateful for all of the support thank you again

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by elizaDoo » Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:09 am

If 40 hours means 50 hours to them then my advice is to run...and fast. 40 hours used to mean 40 with lunch and other breaks. I work part time, the very odd time where I work outside my hours I am given time in lieu. No one works for free and if they know they can take advantage of you then they will. There are so many well paid jobs out there and you and Mrs Fudge just need the confidence and the push to see that you are a very valuable resource to any company.
I think there are many women in positions where they may be 45/50 and the company just presume they will not leave so they overlook them for everything. Maybe a life coach or a session with a careers consultant would make you see your worth.

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by luxie » Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:50 am

Shining wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:47 am I would do the same. If I get the message invite I don't accept it.
I think an attitude of if you work part time you are expected to do full time/ 40 hours means 50 is shit. They sound like a rotten employer tbh.
Something that helped me was when I had made the decision to look elsewhere I used to tell myself "I'm leaving, I'm leaving soon". Helped me to detach a bit and see it as a job.
Hold out for a job that excites you and you get a good feeling about. You will get one!
Absolutely.

Just cos they don’t value your time or theirs doesn’t mean they are right. That’s madness. If someone said that to me I’d say sure, pay me for them so.

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by Shining » Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:47 am

I would do the same. If I get the message invite I don't accept it.
I think an attitude of if you work part time you are expected to do full time/ 40 hours means 50 is shit. They sound like a rotten employer tbh.
Something that helped me was when I had made the decision to look elsewhere I used to tell myself "I'm leaving, I'm leaving soon". Helped me to detach a bit and see it as a job.
Hold out for a job that excites you and you get a good feeling about. You will get one!

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by StarryNight » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:59 am

luxie wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:50 am I don’t mean to sound harsh but anyone scheduling a meeting here doesn’t look at anyone’s calendar- it’s up to those invited to say if it does or doesn’t suit.

So just don’t attend and say it’s outside your hours so are unavailable- email this if it’s easier.

But you need to decide your battle lines - sit and let things continue as are or make little changes to make your life easier
Same here. I work PT, 3 full days. If there's a meeting on a day I'm not working I don't log in for it. I know this probably holds me back in some respects but equally I'm not going to give my time away for free.

Re: Only One Not Promoted

by luxie » Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:50 am

I don’t mean to sound harsh but anyone scheduling a meeting here doesn’t look at anyone’s calendar- it’s up to those invited to say if it does or doesn’t suit.

So just don’t attend and say it’s outside your hours so are unavailable- email this if it’s easier.

But you need to decide your battle lines - sit and let things continue as are or make little changes to make your life easier

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