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[quote=Iamsoneedy post_id=1492356 time=1647811346 user_id=1801]
[quote="No1 babe" post_id=1492322 time=1647805475 user_id=1915]
Hormones . That’s the cause of your joy-less ness.
Doctor for bloods to see if you are lacking in anything
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Not necessarily. What the OP describes sounds like depression to me. Please go to your GP. It might be menopause, it might not be. It isn’t the source of all problems.
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Completely agree.
The menopause/peri menopause seems to be the current catch all for women in their late 30s onwards. I had a health issue recently and someone said it was "textbook" peri menopause. It wasn't. I needed a course of medication.
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Absolutely, it might or might not be hormones, only by going to the GP will she find out. No one can diagnose over the internet, just give their experience. I think though that the reason for menopause being the 'current catch all' is at least partly because for many years women were routinely put on antidepressants, or dismissed, when in actual fact their depression or anxiety was due to declining hormones. So now many women are aware of this, and have had their lives changed by hormone treatment, and they are keen to spread the word and hopefully help others.

I agree with speaking to your GP and I'm genuinely sorry you're going through this. It could be many things but as I know myself having that chat coukd lead to many things, including your feeling better. Xx

worth talking to your GP and getting their input. What you are describing could be a number of things including depression, burn out, anxiety as well as hormones. Whilst it is common to feel like this it is not normal. And likely can be helped and changed with the right input, whether that is medication or therapy or rest or whatever is appropriate. I agree with Lady Madonna that a lot of this stage of our lives is subject to the tyranny of meals, school pick up nd drop offs, laundry, grocery shopping, etc which can feel relentless, however it should be balanced by some fun and lightness in other areas. if you are not feeling that even when you are away from the mundane then asking for help sounds like a good next step.

Thank you for all the replys,

Lady Madonna, I have done the weekends away, as it happens I am just back from a long weekend away with my husband and kids. I felt like an outsider, as they were having lots of fun, and all I wished for was to be at home. Even when we met friends we havent seen in so long, I just didnt want to be there. I cant seem to shake it off. I keep telling myself to cop on, and smile and get involved, but I am just not feeling it. I have a couple of events and trips away booked in the coming months ahead, but I would rather not go to any of them.

I will make an appointment with my Doctor this week.

[quote=Iamsoneedy post_id=1492356 time=1647811346 user_id=1801]
[quote="No1 babe" post_id=1492322 time=1647805475 user_id=1915]
Hormones . That’s the cause of your joy-less ness.
Doctor for bloods to see if you are lacking in anything
[/quote]

Not necessarily. What the OP describes sounds like depression to me. Please go to your GP. It might be menopause, it might not be. It isn’t the source of all problems.
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Completely agree.
The menopause/peri menopause seems to be the current catch all for women in their late 30s onwards. I had a health issue recently and someone said it was "textbook" peri menopause. It wasn't. I needed a course of medication.

[quote="No1 babe" post_id=1492322 time=1647805475 user_id=1915]
Hormones . That’s the cause of your joy-less ness.
Doctor for bloods to see if you are lacking in anything
[/quote]

Not necessarily. What the OP describes sounds like depression to me. Please go to your GP. It might be menopause, it might not be. It isn’t the source of all problems.

[quote=Joyless post_id=1492304 time=1647802117]
Thank you all for replying to me.

I am 48 and I have the mirena. I thought that it was supposed to stop symptoms of menopause?
Thank you
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No, the mirena won’t do anything about loss of oestrogen, which is the ‘feel good’ hormone.

I recently listened to The Secret on Spotify, recommended to me by somebody I spoke to about feeling like that all the time.
I'm not usually one for self help books but this one certainly resonated with me and while it hasn't fixed everything it has made me correct my thinking more.

Hormones . That’s the cause of your joy-less ness.
Doctor for bloods to see if you are lacking in anything

When I was going through depression/anxiety, I felt.like that all the time. Nothing made me happy. Life was just something I endured. I was annoyed with a lot of people for no reason. Everything was meh. Eventually my anxiety got so bad that I had to go to my gp. I started on medication and counselling.
Go to your gp, explain how you feel. I hope things get better soon.

I'm reluctant to say try X, Y or Z as there are varying levels of joylessness and different ways to fix them but a therapist said to me once much of life IS joyless and mundane at this stage of our lives, we cook the same dinners and clean the same house and manage the wash the same clothes and manage the same social calendars for other people. It's largely necessary and there's not many ways of finding joy in any of it.
Can you think of any way that you can find joy? Anything? Was there a hobby or interest you wanted to do at a busier time in life that you couldn't do but maybe could make circumstances fit around it now? Can you plan a weekend away or day out that you can look forward to? It doesn't have to be big or expensive, just something that YOU want like a spa treatment or meal out or a break away? Mother's day is next weekend, if you can at all set aside some time for yourself, if not Sunday then Friday, Saturday or Monday.

If you can rule out menopause, could it be burnout? Either way a chat to the GP might clarify things for you, they see this all the time, particularly in women who have a huge mental workload.

Thank you all for replying to me.

I am 48 and I have the mirena. I thought that it was supposed to stop symptoms of menopause?

I will check out the link.

Thank you

Thank you all for replying to me.
I am 48. I have the mirena and I thought that by having it you don’t experience any menopause symptoms.
I will check out that link and make an appointment with my gp.

Thank you

Would agree with OddSox and JennyC. I would never have associated it with peri-menopause but you are describing it exactly as I felt it. It is improving with HRT and the awareness of it as a symptom has helped me enormously. As mentioned above peri-menopause/menopause is not always the answer but it is worth considering.

It’s not the answer to everything but have a look at this and if it rings true then I’d suggest seeing a menopause specialist. I have felt the way you describe at times and it’s tough

https://www.themenopausehub.ie/symptom-checker